How to make the VisualNeo Web more "readable" for new and future customers ? - Forum
How to make the VisualNeo Web more "readable" for new and future customers ?
Quote from CDY@44 on March 11, 2020, 11:48 amJust a little thought. In front of the evolution of VNWeb, I try to put myself in the place of someone who discovers it, who is neophyte ... All the possibilities (website, PWA, NW.js, EXE, PhoneGap ...) can cause trouble for new customers. They may be asked questions such as: What actions / functions will work with website, PWA, NW.js, etc ...? Which ones will not work with website, PWA, etc ...? Online? Offline? on a computer? on a mobile phone?
When we discovered NVWeb from the start, things came gradually and we were able to assimilate them as we went along. But now, someone who has the chance to discover this great software, risks being a little lost in front of all its possibilities and I am afraid that this discourages them from going further. Even if we have a great forum.
Voila, it was just my thought of the day;)
Best regards,...I am a REAL VisualNeo Web Fan !
Just a little thought. In front of the evolution of VNWeb, I try to put myself in the place of someone who discovers it, who is neophyte ... All the possibilities (website, PWA, NW.js, EXE, PhoneGap ...) can cause trouble for new customers. They may be asked questions such as: What actions / functions will work with website, PWA, NW.js, etc ...? Which ones will not work with website, PWA, etc ...? Online? Offline? on a computer? on a mobile phone?
When we discovered NVWeb from the start, things came gradually and we were able to assimilate them as we went along. But now, someone who has the chance to discover this great software, risks being a little lost in front of all its possibilities and I am afraid that this discourages them from going further. Even if we have a great forum.
Voila, it was just my thought of the day;)
Best regards,
...I am a REAL VisualNeo Web Fan !
Quote from luishp on March 11, 2020, 12:14 pmHi Denis (@cdy44-2), thank you!
You are right, the software is evolving very quickly and we are all learning and exploring the new possibilities.
Although I already have a lot of ideas that I want to implement, I would like to start working in a tutorials collection.
I will need some help designing the index of contents as I don't want to jump over concepts a newcomer would need to know and I think he already knows.Is anyone interested on helping me in designing the index of contents?
Thank you very much in advance.
Hi Denis (@cdy44-2), thank you!
You are right, the software is evolving very quickly and we are all learning and exploring the new possibilities.
Although I already have a lot of ideas that I want to implement, I would like to start working in a tutorials collection.
I will need some help designing the index of contents as I don't want to jump over concepts a newcomer would need to know and I think he already knows.
Is anyone interested on helping me in designing the index of contents?
Thank you very much in advance.
Quote from Vadim on March 12, 2020, 9:13 am@luishp
Is the content index a list of lesson topics?
I am ready to help, as far as I can and understand!
Is the content index a list of lesson topics?
I am ready to help, as far as I can and understand!
Quote from luishp on March 12, 2020, 1:56 pmHi @vadim,
Is the content index a list of lesson topics?
Yes, thank you!
Before starting the tutorials series I would like to have a good lesson topics list. I don't want to left out important topics just because I believe anyone knows about it. I need help with topics and structure. Still looking for the best way to publish them.
Thanks again!
Hi @vadim,
Is the content index a list of lesson topics?
Yes, thank you!
Before starting the tutorials series I would like to have a good lesson topics list. I don't want to left out important topics just because I believe anyone knows about it. I need help with topics and structure. Still looking for the best way to publish them.
Thanks again!
Quote from Vadim on March 12, 2020, 4:28 pm@luishp
My teaching experience shows that mini-projects with a step-by-step explanation of how to create one are what beginners need.
Basic concepts (such as variables, logical conditions) can be explained briefly, in the course of the project, with links to online help (in which concepts are explained in more detail).
A list of such projects can be compiled, and then sorted separately - from simple to complex.
For instance:
1. A simple one-page business card site, but with nice animation!
2. Portfolio of your site: 5 pages with interesting visual effects!
3. An online book with the effect of turning pages.
4. How to create a simple test site with the calculation of points as a result?
5. Registration of users for your site (a simple project with a database).
6. How to make access to the page (or function) only for users registered on your site?
7. We learn about the activity of registered users of the site. How to generate more complex database queries?
8. We turn the test site into an application running on any computer and mobile device (PWA application).
9. Turn the test site into a desktop application (NW.js application).Modern youth loves that in the created application everything plays and moves, so the possibilities of animation will look very good in the very first projects.
But you can start by telling you step by step how to make those projects that are already included in the VisualNEO Web examples.
I think that any user of this forum will be able to offer more ideas for simple projects that can be a great topic for a lesson!
My teaching experience shows that mini-projects with a step-by-step explanation of how to create one are what beginners need.
Basic concepts (such as variables, logical conditions) can be explained briefly, in the course of the project, with links to online help (in which concepts are explained in more detail).
A list of such projects can be compiled, and then sorted separately - from simple to complex.
For instance:
1. A simple one-page business card site, but with nice animation!
2. Portfolio of your site: 5 pages with interesting visual effects!
3. An online book with the effect of turning pages.
4. How to create a simple test site with the calculation of points as a result?
5. Registration of users for your site (a simple project with a database).
6. How to make access to the page (or function) only for users registered on your site?
7. We learn about the activity of registered users of the site. How to generate more complex database queries?
8. We turn the test site into an application running on any computer and mobile device (PWA application).
9. Turn the test site into a desktop application (NW.js application).
Modern youth loves that in the created application everything plays and moves, so the possibilities of animation will look very good in the very first projects.
But you can start by telling you step by step how to make those projects that are already included in the VisualNEO Web examples.
I think that any user of this forum will be able to offer more ideas for simple projects that can be a great topic for a lesson!
Quote from luishp on March 12, 2020, 6:48 pmThank you @vadim, I like the step by step approach.
The key here is choosing the appropiated projects for each learning stage.
Probably video tutorials with downloable projects are the best option.
Thank you @vadim, I like the step by step approach.
The key here is choosing the appropiated projects for each learning stage.
Probably video tutorials with downloable projects are the best option.
Quote from rrey on March 12, 2020, 9:20 pmYo tenía pensado crear tutoriales dirigidos al campo de la educación en la red genmagic.ning.com que tengo.
Ya creé hace tiempo tutoriales para actionscript, hace ya años aquí. Tuvo mucho éxito. Tengo bastantes seguidores que creo que les gustaría el programa. Se trata de docentes. Mi idea es enseñarles a crear aplicaciones educativas desde cero. Pero este tema lo quería hablar antes con los creadores de Visualneo. Ya que lo que no quiero ante todo es que se piratee el programa.
Mi idea es empezar con un pequeño grupo de profesores que comezarían a trabajar en un grupo especial de visualneo en la red genmagic. La idea era empezar en el mes de junio o antes previa creación de tutoriales. Tengo bastante experiencia es este tema.
¿Cómo lo véis? ¿Pensáis que puede ser adecuado?
Roger
Yo tenía pensado crear tutoriales dirigidos al campo de la educación en la red genmagic.ning.com que tengo.
Ya creé hace tiempo tutoriales para actionscript, hace ya años aquí. Tuvo mucho éxito. Tengo bastantes seguidores que creo que les gustaría el programa. Se trata de docentes. Mi idea es enseñarles a crear aplicaciones educativas desde cero. Pero este tema lo quería hablar antes con los creadores de Visualneo. Ya que lo que no quiero ante todo es que se piratee el programa.
Mi idea es empezar con un pequeño grupo de profesores que comezarían a trabajar en un grupo especial de visualneo en la red genmagic. La idea era empezar en el mes de junio o antes previa creación de tutoriales. Tengo bastante experiencia es este tema.
¿Cómo lo véis? ¿Pensáis que puede ser adecuado?
Roger
Quote from Vadim on March 12, 2020, 9:21 pm@luishp Yes, I noticed that the audience wants more video tutorials.
Despite the fact that the text with screenshots can be mastered faster.
@luishp Yes, I noticed that the audience wants more video tutorials.
Despite the fact that the text with screenshots can be mastered faster.
Quote from luishp on March 13, 2020, 1:41 pm¿Cómo lo véis? ¿Pensáis que puede ser adecuado?
¡Claro que es adecuado @rrey !
Cualquier cosa que necesites puedes contar conmigo. En el caso de Vadim, su curso tiene un sello que lo acredita como aprobado por VisualNEO y su propia sección aquí:
https://visualneo.com/coursesPodríamos incluir el tuyo una vez empieces a contar con contenidos.
Una de las cosas que me gustaría poder hacer es impartir clases presenciales, pero para eso la aplicación tiene que ir ganando popularidad primero. Poco a poco.
Por cierto que acabo de enviarte un email Roger.
¿Cómo lo véis? ¿Pensáis que puede ser adecuado?
¡Claro que es adecuado @rrey !
Cualquier cosa que necesites puedes contar conmigo. En el caso de Vadim, su curso tiene un sello que lo acredita como aprobado por VisualNEO y su propia sección aquí:
https://visualneo.com/courses
Podríamos incluir el tuyo una vez empieces a contar con contenidos.
Una de las cosas que me gustaría poder hacer es impartir clases presenciales, pero para eso la aplicación tiene que ir ganando popularidad primero. Poco a poco.
Por cierto que acabo de enviarte un email Roger.
Quote from rrey on March 13, 2020, 2:48 pm@luishp
Pues perfecto. El curso lo montaré sobre un google sites. Voy hacerlo a partir de un nivel muy bajo, de usuario básico, e iré subiendo de nivel. Gracias a que google sites permite incluir código javascript (mediante iframe), se podrá embeber también las aplicaciones creadas en Visualneo. De momento estoy publicando en este sites de inicio de genmagic algunas aplicaciones creadas. Pero los tutoriales estarán creados en un nuevo sites específico.
Bueno veo un gran futuro a VisualNeo.
Pues perfecto. El curso lo montaré sobre un google sites. Voy hacerlo a partir de un nivel muy bajo, de usuario básico, e iré subiendo de nivel. Gracias a que google sites permite incluir código javascript (mediante iframe), se podrá embeber también las aplicaciones creadas en Visualneo. De momento estoy publicando en este sites de inicio de genmagic algunas aplicaciones creadas. Pero los tutoriales estarán creados en un nuevo sites específico.
Bueno veo un gran futuro a VisualNeo.