Very confused over the versions of Visual Neo
Quote from karmacomposer on February 21, 2023, 8:31 pmI am looking for a replacement language from Livecode as they are getting too expensive to use any longer. I also have Delphi Architect and they, too, are out of the ballpark on cost to keep going.
I am confused over these two products. One creates windows .exe files, but I cannot really understand how to code it. It seems like a multimedia creation program, much like Opus Pro, which I purchased a very long time ago. I am looking to create cross platform software for Mac, PC and Linux and hopefully for IOS and Android as well.
My main area is database and encryption. I see that Visual Neo for mobile has encryption, but this seems not to make executables, but mobile apps in javascript or the like, disguised as executables - using Cordova and other converters. In the end, it's a HTML5 and mobile app builder.
I do not see any encryption in Visual Neo for Windows EXCEPT to encrypt the source code on compilation (but it does not say anywhere what TYPE of encryption is used (AES? SHA?, etc).
Are there any encryption commands in the actual VisualNeoWin software?
How do you program VisualNeoWin anyway? Where is the code pane like in Visual Neo for web?
Can the code in one program be used in the other or do I have to code the same software twice to deploy to the various targets?
Thank you for your answers.
Mike Felker
I am looking for a replacement language from Livecode as they are getting too expensive to use any longer. I also have Delphi Architect and they, too, are out of the ballpark on cost to keep going.
I am confused over these two products. One creates windows .exe files, but I cannot really understand how to code it. It seems like a multimedia creation program, much like Opus Pro, which I purchased a very long time ago. I am looking to create cross platform software for Mac, PC and Linux and hopefully for IOS and Android as well.
My main area is database and encryption. I see that Visual Neo for mobile has encryption, but this seems not to make executables, but mobile apps in javascript or the like, disguised as executables - using Cordova and other converters. In the end, it's a HTML5 and mobile app builder.
I do not see any encryption in Visual Neo for Windows EXCEPT to encrypt the source code on compilation (but it does not say anywhere what TYPE of encryption is used (AES? SHA?, etc).
Are there any encryption commands in the actual VisualNeoWin software?
How do you program VisualNeoWin anyway? Where is the code pane like in Visual Neo for web?
Can the code in one program be used in the other or do I have to code the same software twice to deploy to the various targets?
Thank you for your answers.
Mike Felker
Quote from luishp on February 22, 2023, 8:02 am@karmacomposer please take a look here:
https://visualneo.com/forum/topic/faq-read-first
VisualNEO Win produces Windows executables only and can use plugins made with Delphi and other languages.
It's an old system we try to keep alive but, as it was developed using Delphi 7, some limitations remains.VisualNEO Web is quite more modern based in Web technologies. Includes a Plugin Generator so, in theory, any JavaScript library may be converted into a plugin. It allows using JavaScript directly too. You can compile Progressive Web Apps or Desktop Apps using NWjs. You can also compile for Cordova or VoltBuilder. But at the end they will allways be web apps, with their own characteristics. We also offer neoEdge as a bridge to use VisualNEO Win commands from VisualNEO Web but they are two very different programs that shae the shame philosophy.
How do you program VisualNeoWin anyway?
Double click a visual object, like a button, to see the "Actions" panel. Same in VisualNEO Web.
Can the code in one program be used in the other or do I have to code the same software twice to deploy to the various targets?
No. You can use VisualNEO Win for Windows axecutables only or VisualNEO Web for Cross-Platform Web based apps.
Let me know if you need additional information.
Thank you for your interest!
@karmacomposer please take a look here:
https://visualneo.com/forum/topic/faq-read-first
VisualNEO Win produces Windows executables only and can use plugins made with Delphi and other languages.
It's an old system we try to keep alive but, as it was developed using Delphi 7, some limitations remains.
VisualNEO Web is quite more modern based in Web technologies. Includes a Plugin Generator so, in theory, any JavaScript library may be converted into a plugin. It allows using JavaScript directly too. You can compile Progressive Web Apps or Desktop Apps using NWjs. You can also compile for Cordova or VoltBuilder. But at the end they will allways be web apps, with their own characteristics. We also offer neoEdge as a bridge to use VisualNEO Win commands from VisualNEO Web but they are two very different programs that shae the shame philosophy.
How do you program VisualNeoWin anyway?
Double click a visual object, like a button, to see the "Actions" panel. Same in VisualNEO Web.
Can the code in one program be used in the other or do I have to code the same software twice to deploy to the various targets?
No. You can use VisualNEO Win for Windows axecutables only or VisualNEO Web for Cross-Platform Web based apps.
Let me know if you need additional information.
Thank you for your interest!
Quote from Vadim on February 22, 2023, 10:35 am@karmacomposer
I will add about encryption and hashing. There are different plugins and functions available in VisualNEO Win which allow you to encrypt strings and files with different encryption algorithms (AES, BlowFish, BrainFuck-5, CAST 128, CAST 256, DES, 3DES, ICE, Thin ICE, ICE 2, IDEA, Mars, Misty 1, RC 2, RC 4, RC 5, RC 6, Rijndael, SerPent, TEA, TwoFish) and hashing (CRC, CRC32, Haval, MD4, MD5, RMD128, RMD160, SHA 256, SHA 384, SHA 512, Tiger).
But VisualNEO Win does not support Unicode.
I will add about encryption and hashing. There are different plugins and functions available in VisualNEO Win which allow you to encrypt strings and files with different encryption algorithms (AES, BlowFish, BrainFuck-5, CAST 128, CAST 256, DES, 3DES, ICE, Thin ICE, ICE 2, IDEA, Mars, Misty 1, RC 2, RC 4, RC 5, RC 6, Rijndael, SerPent, TEA, TwoFish) and hashing (CRC, CRC32, Haval, MD4, MD5, RMD128, RMD160, SHA 256, SHA 384, SHA 512, Tiger).
But VisualNEO Win does not support Unicode.